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15cm sFH13/1(Sf) auf Geschutzwagen Lorraine Schlepper (f) front view

15cm sFH13/1(Sf) auf Geschutzwagen Lorraine Schlepper (f) front view

15cm sFH13/1(Sf) auf Geschutzwagen Lorraine Schlepper (f) front view

A front view of the 15cm sFH13/1(Sf) auf Geschutzwagen Lorraine Schlepper (f), a self-propelled mount for a 15cm howitzer built on a French chassis.

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Hummel

Reload Times
Nominal: 26.4 s
50% Crew: 32.7 s
75% Crew: 28.56 s
100% Crew: 25.31 s
Rammer: 22.78 s
Vents: 24.75 s
Both: 22.28 s
Both and BiA: 21.79 s
Both and Max Crew %: 20.89 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.

Reload Times
Nominal: 26.4 s
50% Crew: 32.7 s
75% Crew: 28.56 s
100% Crew: 25.31 s
Rammer: 22.78 s
Vents: 24.75 s
Both: 22.28 s
Both and BiA: 21.79 s
Both and Max Crew %: 20.89 s

See Crew, Consumables, or Equipment for more information.

Using Shell Type 1 (540 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1225.8
50% Crew: 988.2
75% Crew: 1134
100% Crew: 1279.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1306.8
Rammer: 1420.2
Both: 1452.6
Both and BiA: 1485
Both and Max Crew %: 1549.8

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 1765.8
50% Crew: 1528.2
75% Crew: 1674
100% Crew: 1819.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 1960.2
Vents: 1846.8
Both: 1992.6
Both and BiA: 2025
Both and Max Crew %: 2089.8

See here, here, or here for more information.

Using Shell Type 1 (540 Damage):
With wholly penetrating hits

Theoretical Damage Per Minute
Nominal DPM: 1668.6
50% Crew: 1344.6
75% Crew: 1544.4
100% Crew: 1738.8
100% Crew
Vents: 1776.6
Rammer: 1933.2
Both: 1976.4
Both and BiA: 2019.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2106

Advantageous Damage Per Minute
First-shot DPM: 2208.6
50% Crew: 1884.6
75% Crew: 2084.4
100% Crew: 2278.8
100% Crew
Rammer: 2473.2
Vents: 2316.6
Both: 2516.4
Both and BiA: 2559.6
Both and Max Crew %: 2646

See here, here, or here for more information.

With㺲% Crew: 208.2 m
With㻋% Crew: 236.6 m
With𧅤% Crew: 265 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 278.4 m
With Coated Optics: 291.5 m
With Binocular Telescope: 331.25 m
Maximum possible: 379.4 m

With㺲% Crew: 208.2 m
With㻋% Crew: 236.6 m
With𧅤% Crew: 265 m
With Recon and Situational Awareness: 278.4 m
With Coated Optics: 291.5 m
With Binocular Telescope: 331.25 m
Maximum possible: 379.4 m

With㺲% Crew: 250.2 m
With㻋% Crew: 286.6 m
With𧅤% Crew: 323.3 m
With𧅤% Signal Boost: 372 m
When affected by𧅤% Relaying: 341 m
Maximum possible: 465.4 m

With㺲% Crew: 573.1 m
With㻋% Crew: 656.4 m
With𧅤% Crew: 740.5 m
With𧅤% Signal Boost: 852 m
When affected by𧅤% Relaying: 781 m
Maximum possible: 1065.9 m

The Hummel is a German tier 6 self-propelled gun.

In the autumn of 1942 the Alkett company started the development of a new SPG with a 150-mm gun. To boost new vehicle production, it was planned to use the readily available components of Pz. III and Pz. IV vehicles. The SPG was made on the same chassis as the Nashorn heavy tank destroyer. A total of 714 vehicles and 150 ammunition carriers that used the same chassis were built.

Built on the Pz.Kpfw. III/IV chassis, the Hummel is a very well-rounded piece of artillery. The second gun can take down or seriously damage any heavy tank. This, combined with a good accuracy, makes it one of the best T6 SPGs. It can also be played in "tank destroyer mode" (direct fire) when needed. However, because of its height and low gun depression, going into a short-range gunfight is not advisable, since you're likely to just overshoot anything in front of you. Interestingly, it was the first SPG to be introduced in the game, one of the first seven tanks created when it was still in Alpha testing.

Modules / Available Equipment and Consumables


Development

In 1934 the order was given to design a munition supply vehicle to increase the operational range of independent tank units. The same year the Renault 36R was selected for further development three hundred were ordered from 1938. However this tractor was only partially armoured on 17 April 1936 a new set of specifications was drafted for a fully armoured vehicle to deliver fuel and munitions to tanks fighting on the frontline.

Early in 1937 the Lorraine company finished a prototype. It was a lengthened version of a proposed replacement type for the 1931 model Renault UE Chenillette tracked infantry supply tractor. In February 1937, the matériel commission, the Commission de Vincennes, was ordered to test the prototype and to complete an evaluation before 1 November 1937, even if testing would not yet have been finished. The prototype was only presented on 9 July and tested until 4 August. Although the vehicle attained a maximum speed of 30 km/h (19 mph), this dropped to an unacceptably low 22.8 km/h (14.2 mph) when an intended fuel trailer was attached. It was therefore returned to the factory after a more powerful engine and stronger clutch had been fitted it was again tested between 22 September and 29 October and now achieved the desired 35 km/h (22 mph).


10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by Davide Pastore » 02 Mar 2008, 10:36

According to Chamberlain & Doyle, Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World Wat Two, the ninety-four 15cm sFH13/1(Sf) auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f), and the twelve 10.5cm leFH18(Sf) auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f), were built "for special operations under Rommal in North Africa" and "first issued to the Panzerartillerie Abteilung of the 21st Panzer Division in North Africa".

1) did other units received them?

3) how many vehicles were sent to Africa, and when?

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by phylo_roadking » 02 Mar 2008, 16:56

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by Davide Pastore » 02 Mar 2008, 17:01

I trust more the printed source. Particularly since Chamberlain & Ellis' work is usually regarded as the Holy Scriptures in their field.

According to the source, 60 chassis were ordeder to be converted to 10,5cm carriers in May 1942, but 48 of them were completed as 7,5cm PaK (Marder I).

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by jmehner » 03 Mar 2008, 10:58

I would not put too much trust in Chamberlain/Ellis either, their work is dated and much of the information contained is not up-to-date in many aspects- it gets reprinted on a regular basis, but not edited.

For my money, Jentz and Spielberger are usually good.

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by Davide Pastore » 03 Mar 2008, 14:10

OK, anyway, the correct number of vehicles built is a secondary matter to me, compared to my initial questions about employment in Africa. Can anyone help?

(I'm fairly sure some 15cm reached Africa, and this is not based on Chamberlain & Ellis alone)

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by TadPortly » 03 Mar 2008, 17:24

I'm fairly certain that a 150mm version is preserved in an "as found" condition at the Museum at El Alamein. The following link also shows at least 7 of the 150mm version captured after the battle:

I seem to recall that some of the 150mm Lorraine Schleppers were sunk en route to Africa.

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by phylo_roadking » 03 Mar 2008, 18:35

Dvaide, I know this is going to sound like very circumstantial eveidence in "court" terms LOL but - how good was Allied intelligence on what the Wehrmacht had in the field?

because there's a piece of cricumstantial evidence that might support the construction of more than the dozen 10.5cm Lorraines sent to North Africa.

the US Army Manual TM-E 30-451: Handbook on German Military Forces published in March 1945 lists the

. as being available to the Wehrmacht. If only twelve were produced and sent to Rommel, then I doubt that entry would be in there?

I note they have the same caveat as me above, that being "intelligence" it may not be accurate or complete, but it's still an interesting entry to note, as I would assume a manual edition issued as late as March '45 would include vehicles met on the mainland of Europe.

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by Davide Pastore » 03 Mar 2008, 19:52

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by phylo_roadking » 03 Mar 2008, 20:35

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by Davide Pastore » 03 Mar 2008, 21:23

This they could not know until the end of the war.

BTW, upon further reflection, that intelligence booklet in itself doesn't prove any 10.5cm was ever sent to Africa: they could have met them in France in 1944.

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by phylo_roadking » 04 Mar 2008, 00:59

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by phylo_roadking » 04 Mar 2008, 01:03

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by phylo_roadking » 04 Mar 2008, 01:21

So if we can account or that "54" in Western Europe in 1944, we're only astray by ten.

NOTE - he finished off his post with THIS

. so no 10.5 leFH16(sf) auf GW LS(f) in North Africa as far as he was concerned.

He's later corrected to Art. Regs. 33 and 155, none going to 190.

Re: 10.5cm & 15cm auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)

Post by phylo_roadking » 04 Mar 2008, 01:28

It was originally planned to issue 12 to AR 155(21PD), 12 to AR 33(15PD) and 6 to 90.leDiv for the 30 total.

However 3 were lost in transit in July 1942 and 4 in August leaving only 23 that reached Libya.

AR 155(21PD) received the first 10 to land in Tobruk and the division reported on 26 July 1942 they were on their way to the front.

AR33(15PD) reported that 2 left Tobruk om 17 August 1942 and 9 on 20 August 1942 for the front.

The last 2 arrived at Tobruk on 24 August 1942 and were two late to reach the front for the attack at El Alamein.

On 1 October 1942 the 15PD reported 8 available and the 21 PD reported 11 available. On 23 October 1942 when the British launched their attack on the German defenses at El Alamein the two divisions reported 19 available. All were reported lost by 2 December 1942.

The 15PD reported their losses as:
3 lost on 26 October
1 on 27 October
1 on 30 October
2 on 3 November
1 on 8 November


What Happened To the French Undersea Cruiser Surcouf? Bermuda Triangle, Sunk by Friendly Fire or Rammed?

Surcouf was a French submarine ordered to be built in December 1927, launched on 18 October 1929, and commissioned in May 1934. Surcouf – named after the French privateer Robert Surcouf – was the largest submarine ever built until surpassed by the first Japanese I-400-class submarine in 1943. Her short wartime career was marked with controversy and conspiracy theories. She was classified as an “undersea cruiser” by sources of her time.

Soon after Surcouf was launched, the London Naval Treaty finally placed restrictions on submarine designs. Among other things, each signatory (France included) was permitted to possess no more than three large submarines, each not exceeding 2,800 long tons standard displacement, with guns not exceeding 6.1 inch in caliber. Surcouf, which would have exceeded these limits, was specially exempt from the rules at the insistence of Navy Minister Georges Leygues, but other ‘big-gun’ submarines of her class could no longer be built.


History [ edit ]

The gun was a development of the previous standard howitzer, the 15 cm sFH 02. Improvements included a longer barrel resulting in better range and a gun shield to protect the crew. Variants were: the original "kurz" (L/14 – 14 calibre short barrel version), the lg. sFH13 with a longer barrel with minor modifications to simplify wartime manufacture of the lg. sFH weapons. Initially there were serious issues of weak recoil spring mechanisms that would break, and gun barrel explosions. The problems were solved with the upgrades. ΐ] A sub variant of the sFH 13 was the lg. 15 cm sFH 13/02 which combined the long barrel with the carriage of the earlier sFH 02 when those guns became obsolete. The sFH 13/02 gun shield wasn't hinged at the top and it only used a hydro-spring recoil system. Approximately 1,000 conversions were completed and their performance was the same with only a 40 kg difference in weight. Α] Β]

The British referred to these guns and their shells as "Five Point Nines" or "Five-Nines" as the internal diameter of the barrel was 5.9 inches (150 mm). The ability of these guns to deliver mobile heavy firepower close to the frontline gave the Germans a major firepower advantage on the Western Front early in World War I, as the French and British lacked an equivalent. [ citation needed ] It was not until late 1915 that the British began to deploy their own 6 inch 26 cwt howitzer.

About 3,500 of these guns were produced from 1913 to 1918. Γ] They continued to serve in the Reichswehr and then the Wehrmacht in the interwar period as the standard heavy howitzer until the introduction of 15 cm sFH 18 in the 1930s. They were then shifted to reserve and training units, as well as to coastal artillery. Guns turned over to Belgium and the Netherlands as reparations after World War I were taken into Wehrmacht service after the conquest of the Low Countries as the 15 cm sFH 409(b) and 15 cm sFH 406(h) respectively. Δ]

In the course of World War II about 94 of these howitzers were mounted on Lorraine 37L tractors to create self-propelled guns, designated 15 cm sFH13/1 (Sf) auf Geschuetzwagen Lorraine Schlepper (f).


► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

Post by David Lehmann » 31 May 2003, 20:52

Captured & converted French vehicles in German service

The German army made extensive use of French captured vehicles and converted ex-French vehicles, though many had been retired by 1944, or had gone to axis allies such as Croatia or Romania. The following list is far from being complete.

UE 630(f) Schlepper
· Infanterie UE-Schlepper (f)
· Kleiner Funk- und Beobachtungspanzer auf Infanterie-Schlepper UE (f)
· Fernmeldekabel-Kraftwagen auf Infanterie-Schlepper UE (f)
· 3,7cm Pak 35/36 auf Inf. Schlepper UE (f)
· Slf. für 28/32cm Wurfrahmen auf Infanterie-Schlepper UE (f) ( four rockets)
· Luftwaffensicherungsfahrzeug auf Basis Renault UE (f)
· Munitionsschlepper auf Basis Renault UE (f)
· Sicherungsfahrzeug UE(f) - infantry support vehicles armed with one or two MG34s


Infanterie UE-Schlepper (f)


3,7cm Pak 35/36 auf Inf. Schlepper UE (f)


Munitionsschlepper auf Basis Renault UE (f)


Slf. für 28/32cm Wurfrahmen auf Infanterie-Schlepper UE (f)


Sicherungsfahrzeug UE(f)

Lorraine 37L(f) Schlepper
· Gefechtsfeld-Versorgungsfahrzeug Lorraine 37L (f)
· Großer Funk- & Beobachtungspanzer Lorraine (f)
· 4,7cm Pak181(f) auf Geschützwagen Lorraine
· Munitionstransportkraftwagen auf Lorraine Schlepper
· 7,5cm Pak40/1 auf Geschützwagen Lorraine "Marder I (SdKfz 135)"
· 10,5cm leFH18 auf Geschützwagen Lorraine (12 produced), Wespe-equivalent based on Lorraine armored tractor
· 12,2cm Kanone (r) auf Geschützwagen Lorraine (f) (1 produced)
· 15cm sFH13/1 auf Geschützwagen Lorraine (94 produced), Hummel-equivalent based on Lorraine armored tractor


Gefechtsfeld-Versorgungsfahrzeug Lorraine 37L (f)


Beobachtungspanzer Lorraine (f)


4,7cm Pak181(f) auf Geschützwagen Lorraine


10,5cm leFH18 auf Geschützwagen Lorraine


15cm sFH13/1 auf Geschützwagen Lorraine


Marder I auf Lorraine

Somua MCL S303 (f)
· Zugkraftwagen Somua MCL S303 (f)
· In 1943, Somua MCL S303 (f) were converted to personnel carriers mSPW S303(f), equivalent of the Sdkfz 251/1
· 8cm Reihenwerfer auf SPW Somua S303 (f), 16 French 81mm Brandt mortars on a single mount
· 8cm Vielfachwerfer auf SPW Somua S303 (f), mounting 2 racks of Russian 80mm Katyusha Rockets
. mSPW S303(f) (Pionier), equivalent of the Sdkfz 251/7


8cm Vielfachwerfer auf SPW Somua S303 (f)

Somua MCG S307 (f)
· Zugkraftwagen Somua MCG S307 (f)
· In 1943, Somua MCG S307 (f) were converted to personnel carriers mSPW S307(f), equivalent of the Sdkfz 251/1
· In 1944, 16 Somua MCG S307 (f) were converted to 7,5cm Pak40 (Sf) auf mSPW S307(f), equivalent of the Sdkfz 251/22
· 8cm Reihenwerfer auf SPW Somua S307 (f), 16 French 81mm Brandt mortars on a single mount
· 8cm Vielfachwerfer auf SPW Somua S307 (f), mounting 2 racks of Russian 80mm Katyusha Rockets
· 15cm Panzerwerfer 42 (Sf) auf mSPW Somua S307(f)


mSPW S307(f)


7,5cm Pak40 (Sf) auf mSPW S307(f)


15cm Panzerwerfer 42 (Sf) auf mSPW Somua S307(f)


8cm Reihenwerfer auf SPW Somua S307 (f)

Zugkraftwagen Unic TU1 U305(f)

Zugkraftwagen P302 U302(f)

Zugkraftwagen P107 U304(f) (Unic-Kégresse P107)
· Leichte Zugkraftwagen P107 U304(f). Softskin halftrack, based on the Unic P107, used to tow 37 mm Pak 35/36, 75 mm Pak 97/38, 7.5cm PaK40, 10.5cm leFH18 etc.
· In 1943/44, P107s were converted to personnel carriers leSPW U304(f). They were stripped of their superstructures and fitted with armored hulls that were almost like the SdKfz 251 series. Issued to armored units in France.
· leSPW U304(f) (Fkl) - Equivalent of the Sdkfz 251/3 or 251/8 radio/command vehicles
· leSPW U304(f) (FlaK 38 ) - Equivalent of the Sdkfz 251/17, mounting the 20mm Flak 38
· leSPW U304(f) (PaK 36) - Equivalent of the Sdkfz 251/10, mounting the 37mm PaK 36
· leSPW U304(f) (8cm GrW) - Equivalent of the Sdkfz 251/2, mounting the 8cm mortar


leSPW U304(f)

Zugkraftwagen Ci/306(f) (Citroën P14)

Gepanzerter Transportkraftwagen P380(f) (Panhard-Kégresse)

Panzerspähwagen VM 701(f) (AMR-33)

Panzerspähwagen ZT 702(f) (AMR-35 ZT)
· PSW ZT 702(f)
· some were rearmed with 20mm KwK 30 or KwK 38 L/55 guns
· 8cm Granatwerfer auf PSW AMR35(f)


8cm Granatwerfer auf PSW AMR35(f)

Panzerspähwagen Wh 201(f) (AMD White-Laffly AM29)

Panzerspähwagen Laf 202(f) (AMD Laffly AM80)

Panzerspähwagen 203(f) (AMD Panhard TOE)

Panzerspähwagen 204(f) (AMD Panhard 174/178)
· PSW P174/178 204(f)
· some were rearmed with 20mm KwK 30 or KwK 38 L/55 guns
· some were modified and rearmed with 50mm KwK L/42 guns
· some were converted to railway protection armored cars


PSW 204(f)

Panzerkampfwagen AMC 738(f) (AMC-35)

Panzerkampfwagen 17R/18R 730(f) (Renault FT 17/18 )
Panzerkampfwagen 730c (f) is the cannon version and 730m (f) is the MG version. Many were used in armored trains or were given to the Luftwaffe as snow plows for airfields


Panzerkampfwagen 730m (f)

Panzerkampfwagen 35R 731(f) (Renault R35 and R40)
· Panzerkampfwagen 35R 731(f)
· Befehlspanzer 35R (f)
· PzKpfw 35R 731(f) armed with MG34s
· Munitionspanzer 35R 731(f)
· Artillerie Schlepper 35R 731(f)
· Zugkraftwagen 35R 731(f)
· 4,7cm Pak(t) auf PzKpfw 35R (f)
· 5cm Pak38 auf PzKpfw 35R (f)
· 10.5cm leFH18(Sf) auf 35R(f)
· Flammenwerferpanzer 35R (f)
· Mörserzugmittel 35R (f) : 8cm sGrW34 auf PzKpfw 35R 731(f)
· some were used in armored trains


Panzerkampfwagen 35R 731(f) (SA18 gun version)


Munitionspanzer 35R 731(f)


Artillerie Schlepper 35R 731(f)


4,7cm Pak(t) auf PzKpfw 35R (f)


Flammenwerferpanzer 35R (f)

Panzerkampfwagen D1 732(f) (Renault D1)

Panzerkampfwagen D2 733(f) (Renault D2)
· Panzerkampfwagen D2 733(f)
· number of turrets was sent to Croatia and mounted on armored trains

Panzerkampfwagen 35H 734(f) (Hotchkiss H35)
· Panzerkampfwagen 35H 734(f)
· Munitionsschlepper 35H 734(f)
· 7,5cm Pak40 auf PzKpfw 35H (f) "Marder I (SdKfz 135)"
· Slf. für 28/32cm Wurfrahmen auf PzKpfw 35H (f)
· some were some were used in armored trains
· Artillerie Panzerbeobachtungswagen auf 35H 734(f)


Panzerkampfwagen 35H 734(f) in Norway (SA38 gun version)

Panzerkampfwagen 38H 735(f) (Hotchkiss H38)
· Panzerkampfwagen 38H 735(f)
· 7,5cm Pak40 auf PzKpfw 38H (f) "Marder I (SdKfz 135)"
· Munitionsschlepper 38H 735(f)
· Großer Funk- & Befehlspanzer 38H 735(f)
· Artillerie Panzerbeobachtungswagen auf 38H 735(f)
· 10,5cm leFH18/40 auf Geschützwagen 38H (f)
· Slf. für 28/32cm Wurfrahmen auf PzKpfw 38H (f)
· Mörserzugmittel 38H (f) : 8cm sGrW34 auf PzKpfw 38H 735(f)
· some were used in armored trains


Panzerkampfwagen 38H 735(f) in Russia (SA18 gun version)


Munitionsschlepper 38H 735(f)

Panzerkampfwagen 39H 735(f) (Hotchkiss H39)
· Panzerkampfwagen 39H 735(f)
· Munitionsschlepper 39H 735(f)
· 7,5cm Pak40 auf PzKpfw 39H (f) "Marder I (SdKfz 135)"
· Slf. für 28/32cm Wurfrahmen auf PzKpfw 39H (f)
· 10.5cm leFH18(Sf) auf Geschützwagen 39H(f), Wespe-equivalent based on Hotchkiss H39 tank
· some were used in armored trains
· Artillerie Panzerbeobachtungswagen auf 39H 735(f)


Panzerkampfwagen 39H 735(f) (SA38 gun version)


10.5cm leFH18(Sf) auf Geschützwagen 39H(f)


7,5cm Pak40 auf PzKpfw 39H (f)

Panzerkampfwagen 40R 736(f) (Renault R40)

Panzerkampfwagen FCM 737(f) (FCM 36)
· Panzerkampfwagen FCM 737(f)
· 7,5cm Pak40 auf PzKpfw FCM (f) "Marder I (SdKfz 135)"
· 10,5cm leFH 16 auf Geschützwagen FCM (f)


7,5cm Pak40 und 10,5cm leFH 16 auf FCM (f)

Panzerkampfwagen 35S 739(f) (Somua S35)
· Panzerkampfwagen 35S 739(f)
· Fahrschulpanzer Somua 35S (f)
· some were used in armored trains


Panzerzüge N°26, 27, 28 and 29 for example had two tank carriers with a Somua Panzerkampfwagen 35S 739(f).

Panzerkampfwagen B1/B2 740(f) (Renault B1, B1bis and B2)
· Panzerkampfwagen B1/B2 740(f)
· 10,5cm leFH18/3 auf Geschützwagen B2(f) (16 converted in 1942)
· Flammenwerferpanzer Renault B2 (f), retaining the turret-mounted 47mm, but with the hull-mounted 75mm replaced by a flamethrower
· Fahrschulpanzer B1 (f) (turretless)


Panzerkampfwagen B1/B2 740(f)


Flammenwerferpanzer Renault B2 (f)


10,5cm leFH18/3 auf Geschützwagen B2(f)

Panzerkampfwagen 3C 741(f) (FCM3C . I know only the FCM2C model)

Panzerkampfwagen 770(f) (Renault YS)

19,4cm Kanone GPF (f) in Sf. Schneider 485 (f)

Many Trucks (Citroën, Panhard, Peugeot, Renault etc.)


Peugeot DK5 behind and Büssing NAG in front


Renault AGR and AGK


Citroën 45

Tank turrets used in coastal defenses or for protection of important areas


H38, FT18m, AMC35 and PzV turrets


Somua S35 turret guarding the entrance of Honfleur harbor

EXAMPLES OF UNITS ISSUED WITH FRENCH VEHICLES IN NORMANDY IN 1944 :

- 100. Panzer Abteilung (commited to 91. ID)
Panzerkampfwagen 35R 731(f)
Panzerkampfwagen 39H 735(f)
Panzerkampfwagen 35S 739(f)
Flammenwerferpanzer Renault B2 (f)
Panzerkampfwagen 17R 730c(f)

- 21. Panzer Division
Panzerkampfwagen 35S 739(f)
Panzerkampfwagen 39H 735(f)
Flammenwerferpanzer Renault B1/B2 (f)
Panzerbeobachtungswagen auf 35/38/39H(f)
Großer Funk- & Beobachtungspanzer Lorraine-S (f)
10,5cm leFH18/40 auf Geschützwagen 38H (f)
10,5cm leFH18 auf Geschützwagen Lorraine
15cm sFH13/1 auf Geschützwagen Lorraine
8cm Reihen Vielfachwerfer auf SPW Somua S303/307 (f)
8cm Vielfachwerfer Mörser auf SPW Somua S303/307 (f)
7,5cm Pak40 auf PzKpfw 38H (f) "Marder I (SdKfz 135)"
7,5cm Pak40 auf PzKpfw 39H (f) "Marder I (SdKfz 135)"
7,5cm Pak40/1 auf Geschützwagen Lorraine "Marder I (SdKfz 135)"
7,5cm Pak40 (Sf) auf mSPW S307(f)
4,7cm Pak(t) auf PzKpfw 35R (f)
Zugkraftwagen P107 U304(f)
Zugkraftwagen Somua MCL S303 (f)
Zugkraftwagen Somua MCG S307(f)
leSPW U304(f)
leSPW U304(f) (Fkl)
leSPW U304(f) (FlaK 38 )
leSPW U304(f) (PaK 36)
leSPW U304(f) (8cm GrW)
mSPW S303(f)
mSPW S303(f) (Pionier)
mSPW S307(f)
Softskins : 21. PzD had over 50 different softskin types (mainly French, but also some Italian ones) including Citroën, Laffly and Renault trucks. Unic-Kégresse P107 and Somua MCL & MCG softskin halftracks as well as Somua SPWs were very common.

- Artillerie Regiment of the 716. ID was equiped with :
8cm Reihen Vielfachwerfer auf SPW Somua S303 (f)
8cm Vielfachwerfer Mörser auf SPW Somua S307 (f)

- Panzerjäger Abteilung of the 709. ID had nine 7,5cm Pak40 (Sf) auf mSPW S307(f)


Feldgrau.net

"I've been debating somewhat how to factor the several German self-propelled guns based on reworked French vehicle chasses. Specifically I'm referring to the GW LS(f) auf 10.5cm, GW LS(f) auf 15cm, GW 39H(f), GW FCM(f), and GW CharB1(f). Factoring the DF and MF is easy, but I am wondering what people think about the AF, RF, and weapon type. From the little bit I've read about them, including a little about the unique unit formed in France based on the GW LS(f) auf 15cm, and even the nomenclature of "GW" (although I do not know whether that is really what the Germans called them), I've concluded that they were not meant as SPA like Wespes or Hummels to be used as divisional artillery. Rather, they were more like assault guns like GW 1 and GW 38."

Can any experts explain how these vehicals were used for fire support, and if they were used with indirect fire techniques.

Post by phylo_roadking » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:43 pm

In the Lorraine 37L entry, however, there's something different - a good quality picture of a GW LS(f) auf 15cm at Aberdeen - and the armour isn't that thick, only splinter and smallarms'-proof.


Achtungpanzer also refers to them as "howitzer carriers" as a translation of Geschutzwagen - emphasis on the word "carrier" - but that translation isn't the best I've seen. Take a look at tthis page -

. and at the bottom of the first three sections you'll find them named as specifically howitzer-equiped variations of the far more common PaK-armed Marder assault gun conversions.

I would go for howitzer SPA and not assault gun as a definition, and thus indirect fire?


(As for the GW CharB1(f), only 16 were converted, and I thought regarded as a top-heavy failure. Nevertheless, I've seen them referred to again as SPA. and nothing with a silhouette THAT tall is going to be safe actually ON the battlefield!)


15cm sFH13/1(Sf) auf Geschutzwagen Lorraine Schlepper (f) front view - History

Found in Bassoah / Iraq this 15cm sFH13/1 (Sf) auf Geschutzwagen lorraine Schlepper (f) (Sd Kfz 135/1).

Imagine yourself a modern day soldier, you are in Iraq fighting insurgents when all of a sudden you are faced with tanks that seem to come straight out of Call of Duty. You are faced with the same weapons your grandfathers used in the second world war when fighting the Germans or the Japanse.

In this video you will see an amazing collection of pictures of Allied armor, M4 Sherman, Churchill, M24 Chaffee, M36 Jackson, Crusader, you name it they found it in Iraq.

Not only were these vintage tanks encountered, over 70 years after they were used, scores of WWII weapons from all countries were used by the insurgents too. Lugers, Mausers, Garands, PPSH-41, M1919 .30cal machine guns, the list seems endless.

It is a testament to the craftsmanship of those who manufactured these weapons but let us hope this is the last time they are encountered outside a museum. They have all earned their place in history, now let them stay there.


15 cm sFH 13

The 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 18 or sFH 18 German: heavy field howitzer, model 18 nicknamed Immergrun Evergreen was the basic German division - level
sFH 02 howitzer, this one confiscated by the US after World War I and now located in Sierra Madre Memorial Park. 15 cm sFH 13 : German successor 15 cm
The 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 36 or sFH 36 German: heavy field howitzer, model 36 was a shortened lightweight version of the earlier 15 cm schwere
15 cm s FH 13 1 howitzers. 10.5 cm le FH 18 Sf auf Geschutzwagen Lorraine Schlepper f - twelve self - propelled artillery vehicles, mounting 10.5 cm le FH 18 40
wars in 1960 s and 1970 s Republic of China Slovak Republic Spain Sweden: 142 purchased 1939 1942. Decommissioned in 1982. Romania 15 cm sFH 18 - The
designation 15 cm sFH M.14 o The M 14 and M 14 16 were kept in service by Czechoslovakia. Czechoslovak weapons were known as the 15 cm hruba houfnice
One of the models that the Italian Army bought was the Krupp 15 cm sFH 13 With Italy s entry into the First World War in 1915 on the side of the Entente
selected Krupp s carriage to be mated with Rheinmetall s gun. It sometimes equipped the medium artillery battalion with the 15 cm sFH 18 of German divisions
sighting system was dropped in favor of one based on the sights used on the 15 cm sFH 13 variable recoil was deleted and the gun could not be broken down for
schwere Kanone 18 42 were a longer barrel and the same carriage as the 15 cm sFH 18 40. Chamberlain, Peter 1975 Light and medium field artillery. Gander
Japanese did face Chinese heavy artillery typically armed with German 15 cm sFH 18 heavy artillery guns, e.g. in the Battles of Wuhan and Changsha, Type
such as the 15 cm sFH 02 and 15 cm sFH 13 the German guns outranged it and by 1916 the 1904TR no longer had sufficient range. The 1904 TR s carriage was
The 10.5 cm le FH 18M German: leichte Feldhaubitze light field howitzer was a German light howitzer used in the Second World War. The gun, less the

hruba houfnice vz. 25 15 cm Kanone 18 15 cm Kanone 39 15 cm sFH 13 obsolete 15 cm sFH 18 2nd most common German gun 15 cm s IG 33 heaviest infantry
1939. The Germans designated guns that fell into their hands as the 15 5 cm sFH 414 f Play media Prior to 1917, the United States had used a 6 - inch
The 7.5 cm Pak 40 7, 5 cm Panzerabwehrkanone 40 - lit. 7.5 cm armour defence cannon 40 was a German 75 millimetre anti - tank gun developed in 1939 1941
of howitzers Canon de 155 C modele 1917 Schneider French equivalent 15 cm sFH 13 German equivalent 152 mm howitzer M1910 Russian equivalent Hogg Thurston
Canon de 105 mle 1913 Schneider 10.5 cm le FH 16 Obusier de 105 GP 15 cm cannon w o recoil system - 15 cm sFH 13 Obusier de 6 - former BL 6 - inch Mk I naval
continued production for service in the Wehrmacht as the 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 37 t or sFH 37 t The weapon was widely used, particularly on the
battery, mobilizing twelve of the battalion s 10.5 cm le FH 16 howitzers and six of the larger 15 cm sFH 13 guns. He also built twelve munitions carrying

  • The 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 18 or sFH 18 German: heavy field howitzer, model 18 nicknamed Immergrun Evergreen was the basic German division - level
  • sFH 02 howitzer, this one confiscated by the US after World War I and now located in Sierra Madre Memorial Park. 15 cm sFH 13 : German successor 15 cm
  • The 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 36 or sFH 36 German: heavy field howitzer, model 36 was a shortened lightweight version of the earlier 15 cm schwere
  • 15 cm s FH 13 1 howitzers. 10.5 cm le FH 18 Sf auf Geschutzwagen Lorraine Schlepper f - twelve self - propelled artillery vehicles, mounting 10.5 cm le FH 18 40
  • wars in 1960 s and 1970 s Republic of China Slovak Republic Spain Sweden: 142 purchased 1939 1942. Decommissioned in 1982. Romania 15 cm sFH 18 - The
  • designation 15 cm sFH M.14 o The M 14 and M 14 16 were kept in service by Czechoslovakia. Czechoslovak weapons were known as the 15 cm hruba houfnice
  • One of the models that the Italian Army bought was the Krupp 15 cm sFH 13 With Italy s entry into the First World War in 1915 on the side of the Entente
  • selected Krupp s carriage to be mated with Rheinmetall s gun. It sometimes equipped the medium artillery battalion with the 15 cm sFH 18 of German divisions
  • sighting system was dropped in favor of one based on the sights used on the 15 cm sFH 13 variable recoil was deleted and the gun could not be broken down for
  • schwere Kanone 18 42 were a longer barrel and the same carriage as the 15 cm sFH 18 40. Chamberlain, Peter 1975 Light and medium field artillery. Gander
  • Japanese did face Chinese heavy artillery typically armed with German 15 cm sFH 18 heavy artillery guns, e.g. in the Battles of Wuhan and Changsha, Type
  • such as the 15 cm sFH 02 and 15 cm sFH 13 the German guns outranged it and by 1916 the 1904TR no longer had sufficient range. The 1904 TR s carriage was
  • The 10.5 cm le FH 18M German: leichte Feldhaubitze light field howitzer was a German light howitzer used in the Second World War. The gun, less the
  • Japanese did face Chinese heavy artillery typically armed with German 15 cm sFH 18 heavy artillery guns, e.g. in the Battles of Wuhan and Changsha, Japanese
  • Instruktionsbok 15 5 cm Haub 77B Forsvarsmakten, 1995, M7786 - 007870 FH 77B in the Indian Army at indian - military.org A page in Swedish and English about the FH 77 Soldf
  • le FH 18 40 94 150 or s FH 13 French Lorraine 37L - 7.5 cm Pak 40 1 auf Lorraine Schlepper f or Marder I Sd.Kfz. 135 French Lorraine 37L - 15 cm sFH 13 1
  • M1902 field gun 10.5 cm le FH 16 15 cm Kanone 16 15 cm sFH 13 Paris Gun 21 cm Morser 16 Big Bertha howitzer 42 cm Gamma Morser 38 cm Belagerungshaubitze
  • weapon became apparent. Like all the German 10.5 cm recoilless rifles it shared shells with the 10.5 cm le FH 18 light Field Howitzer The LG 40 - 1 version
  • of the Becker s first conversion vehicles: 12x 10.5 cm le FH 16 Geschutzwagen auf Fahrgestell Mk VI 736 e six of the larger 15 cm s FH 13 guns on Mk VI
  • The 10.5 cm Feldhaubitze 98 09 10.5 cm FH 98 09 a short barreled 1625 mm 105mm howitzer, also referred to as the 10.5 cm leichte Feldhaubitze light
  • two - wheel Split - trail carriage was from the 10.5 cm le FH 18 field howitzer, with the wheels from the 15 cm s FH howitzer. The Pak 41 was ballistically identical
  • weapon became apparent. Like all the German 10.5 cm recoilless rifles it shared shells with the 10.5 cm le FH 18 light Field Howitzer The LG 42 - 1 version
  • designation of 15 cm sFH 404 i after the Italian surrender in 1943. With the same weight it had superior range compared to the German 15 cm sFH 18. It was
  • hruba houfnice vz. 25 15 cm Kanone 18 15 cm Kanone 39 15 cm sFH 13 obsolete 15 cm sFH 18 2nd most common German gun 15 cm s IG 33 heaviest infantry
  • 1939. The Germans designated guns that fell into their hands as the 15 5 cm sFH 414 f Play media Prior to 1917, the United States had used a 6 - inch
  • The 7.5 cm Pak 40 7, 5 cm Panzerabwehrkanone 40 - lit. 7.5 cm armour defence cannon 40 was a German 75 millimetre anti - tank gun developed in 1939 1941
  • of howitzers Canon de 155 C modele 1917 Schneider French equivalent 15 cm sFH 13 German equivalent 152 mm howitzer M1910 Russian equivalent Hogg Thurston
  • Canon de 105 mle 1913 Schneider 10.5 cm le FH 16 Obusier de 105 GP 15 cm cannon w o recoil system - 15 cm sFH 13 Obusier de 6 - former BL 6 - inch Mk I naval
  • continued production for service in the Wehrmacht as the 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 37 t or sFH 37 t The weapon was widely used, particularly on the
  • battery, mobilizing twelve of the battalion s 10.5 cm le FH 16 howitzers and six of the larger 15 cm sFH 13 guns. He also built twelve munitions carrying

15cm sFH 13 15cm schwere Feldhaubitze 13 Heavy Field Howitzer.

The 15cm Sf Lorraine Schlepper is a strange marriage of a First World War 15cm sFH13 howitzer hitched to a captured French Lorraine. 15 cm German Howitzer? Landships WW1 Forum. It replaced the earlier, First World War era design of the 15 cm sFH 13, which was judged by the Krupp Rheinmetall designer team of the sFH 18 as completely. 15 Cm Sfh 131 png images PNGWing. Buy 15cm collection sFH13 Krupp L17 Panda Tank model kit 1:35 to be assembled and painted Secure shipping in the USA and worldwide with.


Watch the video: 15 cm sFH131 Sf auf Geschuetzwagen Lorraine Schlepper f (January 2022).